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From: [e-mail](Joe Schrengohst )
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Subject: PC syquests on Amiga
Date: 24 Feb 1996 06:18:32 GMT
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Does anyone know how to read and write to PC formatted syquest
cartridges using CrossDOS on the Amiga. I can read/write to Amiga and
MAC format syquests (using MaxDOS). I use CrossDOS for floppies all the
time but now have a need to use PC syquests on Amiga.
Thanks in advance for any info.

Joe Schrengohst
Channel 3 Productions



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From: [e-mail](William A. Mendez )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: ASSUMED PRIATES!!
Date: 24 Feb 1996 06:41:18 GMT
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You wrote:
>
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Does anyone out there know of a good paint package for the DEC
ALPHA
>> running  NT?  I had tried Photoshop, but of course it doesn't
install properly.
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> -Dana McNeil
>>  Industrial Animation
>>
>wich leads me to think it's pirated,isn't it?


Why are people so quick to assume that someone is a priate if something
does not install correctly?  I tried in installing Photoshop 3.0 on My
ALPHA and it does not work, it worked fine on my old intel machine.


We all know that there are pirates out there and basically we can't
stop them, I least I think so.


Will Mendez

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From: Bryant Reif <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Help Find Lee Stranahan a Job!
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 03:32:43 -0500
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Stranahan wrote:
>
> Since we're discussing ads, here was my idea for LW ads - an idea that I
> had while at NewTek and tried to develop there...this is designed for CGW,
> mainly, btw...
>
> A different ad every month, but the same basic format. The ad is one
> picture that takes up nearly the whole page, a very impressive LW still
> image with a ton of detail rendered at a very high res, done by one of the
> myriad talented LW artists out there (my brother, Ron Thornton,
> Stutterheim, Wheeler, Linhart, Thompson, etc etc - if I left you out, it's
> not personal, I'm tired of typing..). The LW 'glyph' would be somewhere in
> each ad, making a Hitchcock-like appearence. The image would be the kind
> of thing you could really look at for a while and marvel at the details.
> The headline would be LIGHTWAVE : and then a feature of the program like
> MODELING, SURFACING, EFFECTS, VALUE, EASE OF USE, etc...
>
> At the bottom of the page, a small pic of the artist - a pull quote with
> them saying wonderul things about LightWave and the featured feature and
> some text about the featured feature. Also, the NewTek logo, legal stuff,
> etc...
>
> The idea is that after 2 or 3 issues, people would get that the ad will be
> new every month and look forward to the picture. Production would be
> relatively simple, since any LW artists would -love- to get a pic in the
> ads, and the 'big boys' like Ron could assemble a pic from elements they
> have already (like Hypernauts in Ron's case) The ads should be the kind of
> thing people want to cut out and save....
>
> That's my idea of a cool ad...

No I think a vague reference to male genitalia would be better! ;)  Actually
that is a great idea.  Everyone I talk to that doesn't know lightwave always
comments on the quality of the rendering, and finding donations would be
easy.  Gee it seems so clear to the people on the NG, why don't the powers that
be understand it also?  Anyone read "Atlas Shrugged"?
>
> _____________________________________________
> Lee Stranahan
> Q : What do BBQ and better sex have in common?
> A : Lee's new and improved home page!
> URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm

--


|  Bryant Reif, 3D/Graphics/Telecom       M            Home: [phone]  |
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Help Find Lee Stranahan a Job!
Date: 24 Feb 1996 07:06:46 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (John Foust) writes:
>  In article <4gi4vp$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>  >
>  >
>  >>  Hey everyone!!! NewTek CEO Dwight Parscale's son wrote the following...
>  >
>  >>  Technology sold itself and always will.
>  >
>  >        The obvious refutation for this is:  if this were so, Amigas would
>  >        dominate the computer market.
>
>  Hmm.  Couldn't have said it better myself.  Or maybe I could?
>
>  Actually, I would have said "would have dominated."

    No.  If technology sells itself, Amigas WOULD (present tense) dominate
the market.  Why would it be in past tense if it were true?

    Think time travel....

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> What do you rename Powerview to, to not get the error code when you
> run it?

pviewigl.p

- Ernie


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From: Ronald Mar <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Limits on number of texture maps in one object file?
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Hello all!

I'm aware that there is a limit in the number of vertices and polygons
in a LightWave object, but is there a similar limit in the number of
images that are used?

It seems that the limit is around 220 images in one object file.
When layout tries to load this object, it loads and loads, then
crashes.

Thanks for your input in advance!

Ron

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From: Bryant Reif <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: ASSUMED PRIATES!!
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 02:02:31 -0500
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William A. Mendez wrote:
>
> You wrote:
> >
> >[e-mail] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>      Does anyone out there know of a good paint package for the DEC
> ALPHA
> >> running  NT?  I had tried Photoshop, but of course it doesn't
> install properly.
> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> -Dana McNeil
> >>  Industrial Animation
> >>
> >wich leads me to think it's pirated,isn't it?
>
> Why are people so quick to assume that someone is a priate if something
> does not install correctly?  I tried in installing Photoshop 3.0 on My
> ALPHA and it does not work, it worked fine on my old intel machine.
>
> We all know that there are pirates out there and basically we can't
> stop them, I least I think so.
>
> Will Mendez

Actually installing Photoshop on more than one computer you own is a violation of
your license agreement (the envelope you tore open that contained the software).  So
technically you are also guilty of pirating, of the non-malicious sort. ;)
--


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Subject: Lightwavers in NYC
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I guess you can add me to the Lightwavers in NYC list, Brooklyn NY.
Bet you had no idea I was right in your back yard.


Fori
Lightwave Team Programmer


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From: [e-mail](Joe Schrengohst )
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Subject: Re: ASSUMED PRIATES!!
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In <[e-mail]> Bryant Reif <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>William A. Mendez wrote:
>>
>> You wrote:
>> >
>> >[e-mail] wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>      Does anyone out there know of a good paint package for the
DEC
>> ALPHA
>> >> running  NT?  I had tried Photoshop, but of course it doesn't
>> install properly.
>> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> -Dana McNeil
>> >>  Industrial Animation
>> >>
>> >wich leads me to think it's pirated,isn't it?
>>
>> Why are people so quick to assume that someone is a priate if
something
>> does not install correctly?  I tried in installing Photoshop 3.0 on
My
>> ALPHA and it does not work, it worked fine on my old intel machine.
>>
>> We all know that there are pirates out there and basically we can't
>> stop them, I least I think so.
>>
>> Will Mendez
>
Wouldn't you need the Alpha version of Photoshop for the DEC Alpha
rather than trying to install the INTEL Version on a DEC Alpha?
You wouldn't try to install the Alpha version of lightwave on a
Pentium would you?

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From: [e-mail] (peter carlsson)
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Subject: Re: help with metamorph
Date: 24 Feb 1996 09:41:04 GMT
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you wrote:

>Thats right, when you want to morph a box in to a ball, then you
>have to make the ball out of the box, by dragging it's points,
>and that's hard!
>
>Wooly Mittens.
>
I now but is this the only way to do it????

Peter Carlsson


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From: [e-mail] (Kent Lidke)
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Subject: Re: Align to Path Problem
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>Okay, what's up with Align to Path? After I move an object along a path,
>then go to Motion Graph and select Align to Path, the heading always
>gets messed. For example, the object will be aligned properly until the
>second keyframe, then it flips 90 or 180 degrees, until the the second
>to last keyframe, when it flips back to normal. The same problem occurs
>when saving the path to do a Path Extrude in Modeler. When extruding,
>the object gets twisted at certain keyframe angles.

>Any clues out there?

It's probably the look-ahead frames setting in the motion requestor.
This number is how many frames LW "looks ahead" to determine the
object's orientation.  Try increasing and decreasing it, see if that
improves things.

It always messes up at the end, 'cause on the last frame there's
nothing to look ahead to.  If your look-ahead number is greater than
1, say 5, the last 5 frames will have the problem.

To beat this, make your motion path longer than your scene.  This
ensures that there's always something to look forward to.  Kind of
like your reach exceeding your grasp. <g>




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From: [e-mail] (John Gross)
Subject: Re: VOYAGER EFFECTS
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: :   So what's the deal when voyageer flies through the cloud layer..this
was a LW and : : Alias mix?? Did santa barbara studios use a box model to
displace the cloud layer and : : then the LW model was composited in the
alias anim? Or was the voyager modeled in LW : : and converted to Alias??

: As for whether Alias of Wavefront was used (not that it matters now, as
: they're the same company) I'm pretty sure it was Alias for the solar flares
: and space fog.  Unless, of course, the Alias sales reps were lying to my

Wavefront was used for the backgrounds/space cloud/solar flares and
volumetrics for the opening sequence and then the LightWave generated
ship (for three shots) or the real model (for the other three) was
composited in. A stand-in Voyager was used for the volumetric effect and
then ours comped on top.

JGross
Amblin Imaging

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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Help Find Lee Stranahan a Job!
Date: 24 Feb 1996 02:19:20 -0500
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Since we're discussing ads, here was my idea for LW ads - an idea that I
had while at NewTek and tried to develop there...this is designed for CGW,
mainly, btw...

A different ad every month, but the same basic format. The ad is one
picture that takes up nearly the whole page, a very impressive LW still
image with a ton of detail rendered at a very high res, done by one of the
myriad talented LW artists out there (my brother, Ron Thornton,
Stutterheim, Wheeler, Linhart, Thompson, etc etc - if I left you out, it's
not personal, I'm tired of typing..). The LW 'glyph' would be somewhere in
each ad, making a Hitchcock-like appearence. The image would be the kind
of thing you could really look at for a while and marvel at the details.
The headline would be LIGHTWAVE : and then a feature of the program like
MODELING, SURFACING, EFFECTS, VALUE, EASE OF USE, etc...

At the bottom of the page, a small pic of the artist - a pull quote with
them saying wonderul things about LightWave and the featured feature and
some text about the featured feature. Also, the NewTek logo, legal stuff,
etc...

The idea is that after 2 or 3 issues, people would get that the ad will be
new every month and look forward to the picture. Production would be
relatively simple, since any LW artists would -love- to get a pic in the
ads, and the 'big boys' like Ron could assemble a pic from elements they
have already (like Hypernauts in Ron's case) The ads should be the kind of
thing people want to cut out and save....

That's my idea of a cool ad...


_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
Q : What do BBQ and better sex have in common?
A : Lee's new and improved home page!
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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From: [e-mail] (DJM2984712)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Help Find Lee Stranahan a Job!
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In article <4gk0pe$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Seqqual)
writes:

>The executives do test the food.  Do they know how to fix the planes, do
you think they know escape plans by heart...

If they don't, they'd better be listening to the stewardesses with the
rest of us.
Which leads us to point two...

>.....could they fly the planes?  I think not.  They are business men who
give control to experts of each of these fields.

Absolutely correct. But first, they need to identify the qualities that
make a person an  expert in that field, separate the wheat from the chaff,
and hire the best qualified candidate for the respective position (as it
applies to NewTek--marketing, engineering, R & D, etc.). That only comes
from some having some semblance of understanding of the business you're
in, whether it's Boeing (Frank Scrontz), Microsoft (Bill Gates),  or
french fries (J.R. Simplot). Could these men swap companies and run them
as successfully as their predecessor? Probably not. Granted, they'd have
troops of MBA's offering sound  business advice and guidance along the
way. But a CEO needs vision, a master plan, or at least be able to think
on his feet fast enough to stay one step ahead of his competitors.

All of the interviews with Tim and Paul in VTU (pre-divorce) seemed to
indicate they were in denial with respect to the Amiga's dire straits.
Perhaps they were just putting on a happy face for the rest of the world.
I would like to think that both of them knew better and that privately,
they were looking ahead, planning for a worst-case scenario and laying the
groundwork for a PC Toaster/Flyer. Now, from what can be gathered here,
they in fact weren't. It would appear that Paul was the first to share
these concerns with Tim, which in turn led to the turmoil.

I'm still not clear however on why, if Tim was so adamantly opposed to
developing products for other platforms as Paul suggested (a heresy for
which Paul & the others were either later dismissed or left on their own,
depending on which story you buy), why the sudden about-face a few weeks
before NAB last year (assuming that Lee's version of events is correct)
and the mad dash to pull the Flyer for Windows out of their hat? Something
is still missing from this story.

>Because on general a pilot could not run the company nor could a
mechanic, why >not find a true business man to run the company.

Fine. But use, understand, and show enthusiasm for the product you're
selling and the people you're selling it to. Bill Gates has probably never
planted a potato. J.R. Simplot has. Simplot has never written code (that
anyone know of), Gates has.

> Who couldn't test food, most executives probably like eating.

Remember, we were talking about airline food here. Don't get carried away
:-)

Darren


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From: [e-mail] (DJM2984712)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Help Find Lee Stranahan a Job!
Date: 24 Feb 1996 07:00:04 -0500
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In article <4gkqf8$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(JBooth411) writes:

>I think Lee is doing fine for work - If he isn't he should just make some
more tutorials, as I would definatly buy them.

I agree. Though I suspect the best we can hope for is a Pat & Vanna-type
video for Trinity starring Lee & Kiki.

> Lee's the reason I know many of the tricks I know. Who else
>would have drilled the keyboard shortcut for the stats menu so deap into
>my brain.. It's wierd...

No. It's not weird. If one is excited about something, they'll want to
share the good news with others. Lee was (correction, still IS) excited
about Lightwave and that came across on the tapes. That kind of enthusiasm
is contagious and entices the viewer to pay attention to what is being
said which, in turn, leads to a greater likelihood the information will be
remembered and easily retrieved when needed.

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From: [e-mail] (Seqqual)
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Subject: Re: Help Find Lee Stranahan a Job!
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To All,
      I'm confused on how you people know exactly what my father can and
cannot do!  Not one of you knows how much he really knows about any Newtek
product.
       I was trying to say that no CEO needs to be an expert at their
product. That is why companies hire experts.  How about you call my father
on the telephone and ask what he knows and doesn't know.  Since many of
you feel that he is not talented enough to handle Newtek, I'm sure he
would be more than happy to explain his actions.

               Brad Parscale


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> Sean Dawson <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Sean Dawson <[e-mail]>
>Subject: LW4 and Elastic Reality.
>Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:28:29 -0800

>Hello, is anyone here running both Lightwave 4.0 and
>Elastic Reality 1.0 ?  I'm about to install them in
>Windows 3.11 but I've heard that some of the files
>conflict with one another (HIIP?).  Which one should
>I install first and is there anything else I can do
>to minimize the problems ?

>Please reply to newsgroup.  Thanks.

The win32s versions from LightWave and ER conflicted on my machine.  I found
that using the latest win32s from Microsoft allowed each to work OK.  I am
running Win95 now and ER says that one of the DLLs (I think it is the 3D
control DLL) won't work except with NT (or something like that).  However,
except for the error message on starting ER, everything works fine.  Maybe I
should call ER to see if they have a patch/fix or update.


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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[snip]
>>
>Thats right, when you want to morph a box in to a ball, then you
>have to make the ball out of the box, by dragging it's points,
>and that's hard!

>Wooly Mittens.

Actually, what is probably easier is to make the ball into a box.  Creative
use of Set Value in one dimension should make this fairly easy.

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From: [e-mail] (Simon Blackledge)
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Subject: Re: Paint for DEC ALPHA
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 13:57:16 GMT
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In message <4gkpok$[e-mail]>
        Wooly Mittens <4g9a42$[e-mail]> writes:

> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Does anyone out there know of a good paint package for the DEC ALPHA
> > running  NT?  I had tried Photoshop, but of course it doesn't
install properly.
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > -Dana McNeil
> >  Industrial Animation
> >
> wich leads me to think it's pirated,isn't it?

> Try Ron Scotts QFX.It seems fairly well used.Advertised in Computer
Graphics World


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From: [e-mail] (Simon Blackledge)
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Subject: Re: help with metamorph
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In message <4gkhna$[e-mail]>
        Wooly Mittens <4g9a42$[e-mail]> writes:

> [e-mail] (Simon Blackledge) wrote:
>
> > > Who come it is so differcult to metamorph between two object in lw 4.0
> > > If i have 2 object with the same amount of point and polyon it work fine
> > > but if i have a ball i want to turn into a box it dont work at
all who come?
> >
>
> > they need the same amout of points.
> > Heard that before.OK ,then each point hase a number and in will move
> > to the corresponding point with the same no. in obj 2 -3 -4 ect..
> > make your first object the tweak it to the next ect...
> >
> > --
> > Simon Blackledge                                       [e-mail]
> >                  Creators of Digital Visual Effects
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> >
> >
> Thats right, when you want to morph a box in to a ball, then you
> have to make the ball out of the box, by dragging it's points,
> and that's hard!

> Wooly Mittens.

Not if you use the spherize plug-in.

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From: Andrew Hofman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Real Looking Sparks?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 11:01:31 -0500
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> >   [e-mail] (XTremes758) writes:
> >  I have LightWave 3D 4.0 Intel, and Sparks. I would Like to make Real
> >  looking and acting sparks that will jump from a source like a fire
> >  cracker, on to the ground and bounce acouple of times before it dissapear.
> >  Can anyone help me with this?
> >  Thanx
> >
> >>>>

The Sparks manual specifically addresses this, including particles that bounce a
couple times and then dissappear. There's even a tutorial scene to go with the
manual! I suggest you read/load it.
--
Andrew Hofman
LumaQuest Productions
[e-mail]
513-643-7333

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From: [e-mail] (John Crookshank)
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Subject: Re: Paint for DEC ALPHA
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On 23-Feb-96 15:39:03, gdm2475 ([e-mail]) posted:

>     Does anyone out there know of a good paint package for the DEC ALPHA
> running  NT?  I had tried Photoshop, but of course it doesn't install
> properly. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

> -Dana McNeil
>  Industrial Animation

You might want to take a look at QFX, a demo version is at:

ftp.mt-inc.com/pub/mt-inc/alpha/QFX_Alpha.zip

John.
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From: [e-mail] (John Crookshank)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Help Lee Stranahan find a new title for this thread
Date: 24 Feb 1996 16:10:14 GMT
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On 23-Feb-96 15:43:25, ToastRGuy ([e-mail]) posted:

> In article <4gi4vp$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>>>  Technology sold itself and always will.
>>
>>    The obvious refutation for this is:  if this were so, Amigas would
>>    dominate the computer market.
>>
> And Sony Betamax would be the choice for home video, and Atari Lynx
> would be the dominant portable game machine. Sigh...

Don, were you at the same Commodore Dealers Meeting that I was, when they
introduced their newest President, an "acquisition" from PepsiCo? His
opening remarks to us dealers were "Don't worry because I don't know
anything about computers, if I could make a living selling colored water, I
can sell anything."

Commodore is the absolute PERFECT model to use when discussing the adage
"Technology will sell itself", don't you think?

Regards, John.

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Subject: Re: Perception Questions
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On 24-Feb-96 00:42:19, Dave Paige ([e-mail]) posted:

> [e-mail] (John Crookshank) wrote:

>>The PVR version 2.51 software handles all of this. If you are using an
>>older version of the PVR software, go to ftp.dps-inc.com and download
>>the update. You only get the PAR-like file system if you're running
>>Windows NT.
>>

> You're saying that there is a way to append to files together into a
> single file using the software that comes with the Perception?
> Enlighten me I can't seem to find a way to do that without exporting
> all the frames and individual files and then reimporting them.

Sure - with PVR 2.51. In the "VR Player" program, Under the Edit menu,
you'll find Join and Duplicate. Join will take all the PVD files in the
PlayList and pack them all into a single PVD file. You have the option of
deleting the original files or leaving them intact. Duplicate will let you
make duplicates, ping-pong, or reverse copies. The reverse option will even
reverse the field order if you tell it to, great for field-rendered anims.

Have Fun!
John.

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Subject: Re: PC to Flyer?
Date: 24 Feb 1996 16:10:40 GMT
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On 23-Feb-96 14:45:15, Greg Rodenroth ([e-mail]) posted:

> We are about to get lightwave for PC so that we can speed up our
> rendering
> (P100 32MBRAM on NT).
> What I want to know is this: Is there a way to link the PC to the amiga
> so that I  can render IFFs to my PC hard drive and then convert them to
> Flyer clips?? Help me so I can get my boss to pony up the bucks for PC
> Lightwave sooner!

> The Big O

There is a FAQ on how to do this on our web page, and details the software
you will need to do this.

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From: Prem Subrahmanyam <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Need an idea about price of Alpha w/Lightwave
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Stranahan wrote:
>
> Need more info - which Alpha, how fast, how much RAM?
> Ok, how about this.  I need an Alpha machine that would be at
least ten times faster than my ol' Pentium 90 computer with
enough RAM to equal what 32 Megs under Win95 on a Pentium
would give you (I know that Alphas are RISC, so program size
seems to blow up a little as you need more instructions to
accomplish the same task as on a CISC machine).  It should seem
painfully obvious at this point that I know little about Alpha's
(P.C.'s are my area of specialty) except that they are much faster
than Pentiums when you get a fast enough Alpha chip, and a few
vendors are Deskstation, Carrera (sp?), and DEC itself...and that
there are supposedly sweeter deals on LW if you go with a
Deskstation version of the Alpha (the Raptor?).

Com'on guys, humor my ignorance in this area.

-- Prem
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Prem Subrahmanyam
[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (lurker)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: ASSUMED PRIATES!!
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:34:51 GMT
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On Sat, 24 Feb 1996 02:02:31 -0500, Bryant Reif
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>> Why are people so quick to assume that someone is a priate if something
>> does not install correctly?  I tried in installing Photoshop 3.0 on My
>> ALPHA and it does not work, it worked fine on my old intel machine.

>Actually installing Photoshop on more than one computer you own is a violation of
>your license agreement (the envelope you tore open that contained the software).  So
>technically you are also guilty of pirating, of the non-malicious sort. ;)

I think the Photoshop license, like most software licenses, allows you
to install it on more than one machine as long as you only use it on
machine at a time. This allows you to use the program at work and at
home.

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Subject: Re: Perception Questions
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[e-mail] (John Crookshank) wrote:

>Sure - with PVR 2.51. In the "VR Player" program, Under the Edit menu,
>you'll find Join and Duplicate. Join will take all the PVD files in the
>PlayList and pack them all into a single PVD file. You have the option of
>deleting the original files or leaving them intact. Duplicate will let you
>make duplicates, ping-pong, or reverse copies. The reverse option will even
>reverse the field order if you tell it to, great for field-rendered anims.
>
>Have Fun!
>John.
>
I hate when that happens. Thanks John I hadn't tried that yet.


Dave Paige
Alfheim Imaging
[e-mail]

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[e-mail](William A. Mendez ) wrote:

>Why are people so quick to assume that someone is a priate if something
>does not install correctly?  I tried in installing Photoshop 3.0 on My
>ALPHA and it does not work, it worked fine on my old intel machine.

Pirating issues aside, the Intel version of Photoshop will not work on
an alpha machine. Alpha's currently can only emulate 16 bit Intel
operations, since much of Photoshop is 32 bit it must be recompiled
for the Alpha processor to work. Look for an upcoming program called
FX32 from DEC, which will allow the Alpha to emulate a 486 in 32bit
mode.

>We all know that there are pirates out there and basically we can't
>stop them, I least I think so.

But we can and should try.
>
>Will Mendez


Dave Paige
Alfheim Imaging
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: NewTek Appears Healthy To Me
Date: 24 Feb 1996 19:18:25 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (John Foust) writes:
>Brent also looks very silly in a cheerleader outfit.

    MORE than we needed to know about some professional relationships here...

    >8^)

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Subject: Re: Help Find Lee Stranahan a Job!
Date: 24 Feb 1996 19:21:51 GMT
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>  I think not.  They are
>  >business men who give control to experts of each of these fields. Because
>  >on general a pilot could not run the company nor could a mechanic, why not
>  >find a true business man to run the company.  [SNIP]
>               ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  >                     Brad Parscale


    I guess that explains why Bill Gates' company is such a small time
operation-- after all, Gates isn't >really< a business man, he's just a tech
head.....


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>   [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) writes:

>  Note:  Apparently no replacement if it is stolen.  Gotta insure that $20
>  dongle for about $800 to be safe.

    No, gotta insure that $800 program.

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[e-mail] wrote:
>
>snip<
>
> Also, any info on companies that would convert a computer animation at a
> higher res (1280 X 1024 to Betacam SP, etc) would be appreciated (how
> much? quality? service?).  Ditto for outputting high res graphics to
> film.
>

if you want to send you image sequences, I'll record them to BetacamSP for 50 cents /frame - but
you don't render 1280x1024, it's still NTSC. our frame player is 720x486.
film is a whole other ball game. there are only a few companies with the equipment to record
digital and it is extremely expensive.
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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
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Gee it seems so clear to the people on the NG, why don't the powers that
be understand it also?  Anyone read "Atlas Shrugged?"
----------------------------------------------------

My - you just opened a can of worms....

Yes, indeed. A lot of people read Atlas...let me explain a bit of NewTek
history not generally discussed...

I've been an Ayn Rand fan since I was 15. I went to Ayn Rand's funeral -
plus I did audiotaping on a lecture course done by her heir, and went to
an Objectivist private high school...

When i first went to NewTek, Tim Jenison had a picture of AR on the wall
of his office...a BUNCH of NewTekkers were O'ists, too....(ever notice the
VTU cover with Atlas? Coincidence...no) There are other clues, like my
reference to creating a 'Rearden Metal' surface in the 2.0 manual...

So - to things in Atlas terms....I'm trying to save the railroad...




_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
Q : What do BBQ and better sex have in common?
A : Lee's new and improved home page!
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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From: [e-mail](William Teegarden)
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Subject: Re: Need an idea about price of Alpha w/Lightwave
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>
>I know this is a little off-topic, but there seems to be the slim
>possibility of my connecting with resources to obtain a DEC Alpha
>box with Lightwave and a PVR.  I was wondering what the price
>breakdown of such a puppy would be.  Obviously, I need one of the
>faster (if not the fastest) available box out there with a
>sufficient amount of memory.
>
>So, all you Alpha-heads, what could I expect to pay for such a
>system.


Assuming you're getting say, 64MB of RAM, a two gig drive, and the
Perception with drive, and lets throw in a 21" monitor, I'd say about
$12k.

GT



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6x CD-Rom
Medium Tower,
4 VRam Diamond Sleath,
1 Gig HD E-IDE ( To start with )

Is Windows NT useable on this system ?


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From: Bryant Reif <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: ASSUMED PRIATES!!
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:27:10 -0500
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lurker wrote:
>
> On Sat, 24 Feb 1996 02:02:31 -0500, Bryant Reif
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >> Why are people so quick to assume that someone is a priate if something
> >> does not install correctly?  I tried in installing Photoshop 3.0 on My
> >> ALPHA and it does not work, it worked fine on my old intel machine.
>
> >Actually installing Photoshop on more than one computer you own is a violation of
> >your license agreement (the envelope you tore open that contained the software).  So
> >technically you are also guilty of pirating, of the non-malicious sort. ;)
>
> I think the Photoshop license, like most software licenses, allows you
> to install it on more than one machine as long as you only use it on
> machine at a time. This allows you to use the program at work and at
> home.

I was reading directly from the Photoshop license agreement when I wrote this,
buit I forgot to read the little fine print under the first statement.  You are
right you may install it on one other computer providing that you are the only
user of both computers.  Actually none of this is true pirating, I was just
joking. :)
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Stranahan wrote:
>
> Gee it seems so clear to the people on the NG, why don't the powers that
> be understand it also?  Anyone read "Atlas Shrugged?"
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> My - you just opened a can of worms....
>
> Yes, indeed. A lot of people read Atlas...let me explain a bit of NewTek
> history not generally discussed...
>
> I've been an Ayn Rand fan since I was 15. I went to Ayn Rand's funeral -
> plus I did audiotaping on a lecture course done by her heir, and went to
> an Objectivist private high school...
>
> When i first went to NewTek, Tim Jenison had a picture of AR on the wall
> of his office...a BUNCH of NewTekkers were O'ists, too....(ever notice the
> VTU cover with Atlas? Coincidence...no) There are other clues, like my
> reference to creating a 'Rearden Metal' surface in the 2.0 manual...
>
> So - to things in Atlas terms....I'm trying to save the railroad...
>
> _____________________________________________
> Lee Stranahan
> Q : What do BBQ and better sex have in common?
> A : Lee's new and improved home page!
> URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm

"Who is Lee Stranahan?" ;)
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From: "Andrew S. Milkis" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS:  Lightwave 3D 4.0 for SGI
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For Sale,

LightWave 3D 4.0 for SGI.  Lists currently for $2495.  Will go
lower.  Please email offers.  Thanks!

-Andrew Milkis



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Hello, has anyone been able to get NT3.51 to work with the PAR card?
I cant, it keeps telling me thier isnt enough expanded memory to load
pardrv .
Please help, thanks in advance, Shawn




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From: [e-mail] (Mark Whitney)
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Subject: Re: Realistic Metals?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 14:55:00 GMT
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On 02-23-96, ALAN was going on about Re: Realistic Metals?

AC>From: [e-mail](Alan Chan )
  >In <[e-mail]> Jason Zisk
  ><[e-mail]> writes:
  >>
  >>Ron Pepper wrote:
  >>>
  >>>         Does anybody have any advise for creating realistic
  >looking metal
  >>> surfaces?  I just can't seem to get the "texture" right.
  >>
  >>Reflections are the key.  Or even a texture with "fake" reflections.
  >
  >Use very low diffuse settings. Maybe even try a negative diffuse for
  >an extremely metallic look.
  >


Negative Diffusion?  Didn't know you could do that.  Other than firing
up LW and taking a look, what's the general result of this setting?

M.

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>   [e-mail] () writes:

>    Well, NewTek has seemed to survive dispite any reign of error<SNIP!>
                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Good one, Bill!  Very tasty!

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>   [e-mail] () writes:
>Also they did
>    this without runnung to Digital Creations for help!
>
>    -bill

    DC made some innovative products for the Amiga market, but I can't fathom
why they never built AREXX into Brilliance.  It would have OWNED the sprite
animation market.

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>   [e-mail](William Teegarden) writes:

>  Assuming you're getting say, 64MB of RAM, a two gig drive, and the
>  Perception with drive, and lets throw in a 21" monitor, I'd say about
>  $12k.
>
>  GT

    Greg, I know a buncha youguys went out and bought 21" monitors:  tell
me, how does that affect your productivity?  They look really sweet, but the
extra grand seems a bit much to $wallow.


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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: compositing moving backgrounds
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>   [e-mail] (Jeff Yeh) writes:
>    Anyone have any suggestions on the best compositing
>  package that can composite Lightwave animations with
>  moving live video backgrounds?  I'm looking for
>  something on the PC, not Mac, that costs hopefully
>  less than $500, which is easier to use than
>  compositing with Lightwave.
>
>  Does Elastic Reality have features that can do this?

    Yeah, supports image streams, alpha channels, etc.

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Subject: Re: PARTICLE STORM SGI??
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In article: <4gi635$[e-mail]>  [e-mail] (AFrerking) writes:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, Adam Chrystie
> <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> >Is Particle Storm planned for the SGI platform???
> >
> >
>
> The SGI version of both Particle Storm and Impact are indeed planned.  I
> will know more on the release timeline by the end of February.
>
> Thanks for your interest.
>
> Andy
> Dynamic Realities
>

And for the Amiga too? Ive got the impact preview from either Infocus' CD or
Lightrom3- can't remember. Looks good and I'm considering a cheque on
the way to you when I get paid. Is there an Ami preview of Particle Storm
available?

And do you have preview versions of both on PC (So I can convince my bosses
to buy a copy for me to use @ work too =)

           * Robert Dorney * Red Devil of Dual Crew^Shining *
    * Head of Art and Graphics at Eden Entertainment Software Ltd *
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Subject: Re: UK Users of LW !!!
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In article: <4ghlnr$[e-mail]>  Richard Anthony <[e-mail]> writes:

> I visited the Graphics Expo and seminars last August (I think it was August, time flies!...)
> and they had a stand demonstrating Lightwave 4 under NT.  Having previously seen the Amiga
> version, I was pleasantly surprised to see a good application running on a PC compatible without
> crashing!!
>
> The guy doing the demo (sorry, didn't get his name) seemed to know the package well and
> I have spoken to them on the 'phone several times and always got an easy to understand and
> amicable response.
>
> I wish you luck in your foray into 3D with Lightwave - please feel free to Email me as an
> enthusiast who has been published in 3D / ray-tracing and likes to help where he can...
>

Yeah Richard I went over there too and messers Gould and Bishop (the guys @ Premier
Vision) are indeed very helpful and knowledgeable. Unfortunately, and they might well
agree with me here, they are enthusiasts and gfx/video experts rather than hard-sell
businessmen, as Ive only seen fleeting adverts for LW in computer based mags such
as Amiga Computing. LW NEEDS much more of a marketing push, be it from Premier
Vision or from Newtek themselves in order to cut a hole in Autodesks sales figures!
It needs to be advertised in computer related magazines more, and indeed in Video
magazines too!

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    * Head of Art and Graphics at Eden Entertainment Software Ltd *
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In article: <[e-mail]>  [e-mail] (Robin Luiten) writes:
> .........article of loading the Ground Fog object a second time with an offset works
> well but by itself it didn't improve things as much as extending a single
> Ground Fog objects height below the plane.
>
> I was wondering if there might be others like me that have played with this
> stuff and had other ideas and experiences.
>
> BTW The picture of the building with fog at its base at the start of the
> article looks awsome.
>
> Robin Luiten

I dont suppose you would be so kind as to relay some of the information from
VTU regarding ground-fog creation, for those of us that don't receive VTU?
(ie, Pal based Lightwave users =))

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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> >   [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) writes:
>
> >  Note:  Apparently no replacement if it is stolen.  Gotta insure that $20
> >  dongle for about $800 to be safe.
>
>         No, gotta insure that $800 program.
>
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Does this mean that if you lose your dongle Newtek revokes your licence to use
Lightwave? I didn't see that in the licencing statement as a condition of revokation.
Or do you really own the program as this might suggest? How many ways does Newtek want
to eat their cake?

Elliot Bain

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Subject: Re: lightwave anims on PC (no SF recorder needed)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 00:22:37 -0500
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Adam Chrystie wrote:
>
> yea, but i do not think the board will playback 640x480 at full
> res or capture at that resolution...
>
> if memory is correct, the board operates at 320x480 and does
> some weird interpolation.
>
> please ocrrect me if i am wrong...
>
> Adam
  There are 2 boards I've been considering for personal use. One is the
Quadrant Q-motion.  The other, Miro DC20.  Have you, or anyone else had
any experience with these boards?

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> Wouldn't you need the Alpha version of Photoshop for the DEC Alpha
> rather than trying to install the INTEL Version on a DEC Alpha?
> You wouldn't try to install the Alpha version of lightwave on a
> Pentium would you?


If there was an Alpha version of Photoshop one would probably install it, But there isn't one...
FX!32 seems to be our only hope for the near future. Keep an eye on it.

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From: [e-mail] (BigFatCHUK)
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Subject: Re: Pentium Pro and LightWave Problems
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I have been researching Pentium Pro vs. Pentium, there is a good article
in the computer shopper for March (yes I do read the articles :) ) and
theit had some CPU ratings.
The ratings are something like the following.
PPro 200 = Pentium@300mhz in 32bit app.
PPro 200 = Pentium@180mhz in 16bit app.
PPro 150 = Pentium@230mhz in 32bit app
PPro 150 = Pentium@133mhz in 16bit app
The price for a Pentium 166 chip is about $650
The price for a PPro 200 chip is about $1500
So price performance is about the same for both a Pentium 166 and Pro 200.
The part that throws off the price performance is the motherboard costs.
Mother boards are about 2.5 times more for Pro.
In my oppinion always buy the fastest CPU you can because it is the RAM
that will really set you back.
chuck
BigFatChuk@aol



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From: "Frank D. Cocke" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Paint for DEC ALPHA
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 01:25:47 -0600
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
>         Does anyone out there know of a good paint package for the DEC ALPHA
> running  NT?  I had tried Photoshop, but of course it doesn't install properly.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> -Dana McNeil
>  Industrial Animation

Dana,

   There is an Alpha version of Micrografx Picture Publisher for
NT though I don't think they ever released it. If you try hard
enough maybe they can dig you up a copy.

Frank

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From: "Frank D. Cocke" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Lightwave & Non-parity RAM
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Hazen wrote:

> if anyone knows of a considerable difference when using non-parity ram
> /w lightwave.  Is parity ram a must?
>
>         Also, what are the effects of non-parity RAM & Photoshop?  How
> many megs does Photoshop need to be fairly fast?



Hazen,

Parity or non-parity has nothing to do program performance but
it sure has alot to do with your computer. Check your computer
manual to see what kind of memory it specifies and use only that
or your asking for trouble.
As always the more memory the better. Depending on the OS win,
95 or NT.

Frank

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From: [e-mail] (Derek Lang)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Amiga-based LW files to Mac Pict files
Date: 25 Feb 1996 02:52:39 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Ernie Wright  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Jose Alvarez wrote:
>
>> [...] In my case I used ADPro2.5 to convert the files to PICT with no
>> luck.
>>    I think the problem is that neather ADPro or ImageFX save the new
>> PICT2 format, but use the old "regular" pict one. What I can't figure
>> out is that ADPro will READ PICT2 files! :{

ImageFX 2.1a will save PICT files so the Mac can read them.  If you're
using photoshop on the MAC run photoshop then open the PICT file like
you would any other PICT file.  Do not drag and drop the file onto the
application icon.  Photoshop will look at the typeID and unless you've
set it to PICT using resedit (some other MAC program) the program will
just assume it's not a pict file without even checking the data.

Ps.  I know the PICT format does work I use it all the time when going
to Media Composer, or Photoshop at work.

Derek<<<<<


--
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Toronto, Ontario  |--------------------------------------------------------
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From: [e-mail] (Derek Lang)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Amiga sound files to .wav???
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Jeff Holinski <[e-mail]> wrote:
>sound files on my Amiga (iff, 8svx) and I'd like to convert them to .wav
>files to combine with avi's.
>Anybody know of a program that will do this? I'd perfer PC, but Amiga will do
>as well.
>

  There's a shareware/PublicDomain program called Sound Machine for the
Amiga, written by Syd L. Bolton of Legendary Design Technologies Inc.

It can take IFF sound samples and convert them to WAVE format and vise
versa.

Derek<<<<<


--
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Toronto, Ontario  |--------------------------------------------------------
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Hi. Could some kind developer post some kind of tutorial on how to create
plugins for LW/Intel, once we don't have AREXX there?
To be exact, which C compiler do you need? Any specific library? Is there
a specific sequence of linkings or something like this? Of course I'm not
advanced C or C++ programmer so some patient and detailed information
would be very appreciated not only for me, but for everyone that miss
AREXX (<:( R.I.P.).

Breno A. Silva
Animator - PRO GRAPH
<[e-mail]>


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From: [e-mail] (Kip Pesuti)
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>I know that this is a bit off topic, but I'd like to start adding sound
>effects to some of my LightWave animations. I've got a huge collection of
>sound files on my Amiga (iff, 8svx) and I'd like to convert them to .wav
>files  to combine with avi's.  Anybody know of a program that will do this?
>I'd perfer PC, but Amiga will do  as well.

Well, I don't know about a pc app. But "SoundBox" for the Amiga will do the
job. It's on Aminet.

>Jeff H...

 God bless you!
(and your Amiga)
-Kip


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <4gnogf$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: Help Find Lee Stranahan a Job!
>Date: 24 Feb 1996 19:21:51 GMT

>>  I think not.  They are
>>  >business men who give control to experts of each of these fields. Because
>>  >on general a pilot could not run the company nor could a mechanic, why not
>>  >find a true business man to run the company.  [SNIP]
>>               ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>  >                     Brad Parscale


>        I guess that explains why Bill Gates' company is such a small time
>operation-- after all, Gates isn't >really< a business man, he's just a tech
>head.....


>******************************************************************************
>** [e-mail]                     |  Synergy Graphix & Animation   **

Actually, he's both from what I understand.


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: Good Reviews??
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In article <4gl7n9$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (PMshark) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (PMshark)
>Subject: Re: Good Reviews??
>Date: 23 Feb 1996 15:23:05 -0500

>I get your arguments. We all have differing opinions, that helps make each
>of us unique.

[snip]
>[e-mail]
>Visual Designer

Actually, it is our uniqueness that gives rise to our differing opinions.
Not the other way around.  Of course I wouldn't want to be argumentative or
petty. :^)


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <4gl8td$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (ToastRGuy) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (ToastRGuy)
>Subject: Re: Help Lee Stranahan find a new title for this thread
>Date: 23 Feb 1996 15:43:25 -0500

>In article <4gi4vp$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>>>  Technology sold itself and always will.
>>
>>       The obvious refutation for this is:  if this were so, Amigas would
>>       dominate the computer market.
>>
>And Sony Betamax would be the choice for home video, and Atari Lynx would
>be the dominant portable game machine.
>Sigh...

And plastic yo-yos would have never replaced wooden ones.


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: Win95 memory reqirements??
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In article <4gl9om$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (ToastRGuy) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (ToastRGuy)
>Subject: Re: Win95 memory reqirements??
>Date: 23 Feb 1996 15:57:58 -0500

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Adam Lowe)
>writes:

>>>> Can anyone tell me what's the best amount of memory to have with
>window95
>>and
>>>> lightwave? I was thinking of adding about another 16mb so I'll have
>24.
>>JUst
>>>> wondering how much of that 24mb will be accessible?

>With 24 MB of RAM, you can double your speed by using Windows NT, instead
>of Win '95.  The dual boot let's you choose which you want to use for any
>session.
>My Pentium 120 is now 1/4 the speed of a Raptor, so I'm pretty happy.

>________________________________________________________________________
>Don James   The Computer Room    Colorado's Desktop Video Specialists
>2760 S. Havana St.  Aurora, CO  80014        [phone]

Win NT has never delivered twice the performance of Win95 for rendering.
Win95 with SNII has always been nearly as fast as WinNT.  Since Rev C has been
released (and is available from ftp.newtek.com as a patch), you don't even
need to use SNII to be nearly as fast - or possibly even faster.

There ARE good reasons for using WinNT, but speed of rendering isn't one of
them.

I know that many of you have seen these benchmarks before, but Erik is very
proud of his 133Mhz Pentium.  This is for his benefit as well.  :^)

System: Micron 133MHz Pentium, 256K cache, 32MB EDO RAM
Tester: Erik Flom - ELF Works 3D Construction Co.
LightWave Rev: B
File            Win95   Win95/SN        WinNT   WinNT/SN
Dof.lws         6:27    6:13            6:17    5:53
Raytrace.lws    51:14   ???             49:58   50:04
Textures.lws    2:29    1:48            1:45    1:43
ZBuffer.lws     6:56    4:36            4:40    4:38
Blade.lws       21:26   14:54           14:01   13:38
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
System: Micron 133MHz Pentium, 256K cache, 32MB EDO RAM
Tester: Erik Flom - ELF Works 3D Construction Co.
LightWave Rev: C
File            Win95   Win95/SN        WinNT   WinNT/SN
Dof.lws         6:22    5:47
Raytrace.lws            50:37
Textures.lws    1:48    2:01
ZBuffer.lws     4:45    4:36
Blade.lws       13:00  12:53


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: Lee Stranahan's Problem With NewTek
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In article <4gnomq$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: Lee Stranahan's Problem With NewTek
>Date: 24 Feb 1996 19:25:14 GMT

>>   [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) writes:

>>  Note:  Apparently no replacement if it is stolen.  Gotta insure that $20
>>  dongle for about $800 to be safe.

>        No, gotta insure that $800 program.
>
>******************************************************************************
>** [e-mail]                     |  Synergy Graphix & Animation   **

No.  I can backup the software and put the CD-ROMs in a safe place.  Since I
have multiple licences (OK - the studio has) I can actually have nine legal
copies (3 backups, 3 installs and 3 CD-ROMS).  So, I can pretty well guarantee
that I won't lose the software if it is stolen (yes - I keep a copy off-site).
I cannot do the same with the dongles.

The insurance is for the dongles since I can virtually eliminate the risk
associated with the software itself and since it is impossible to steal an
agreement (which is what the purchase really is).  I will only have a problem
if the dongle is lost or stolen.  So it IS dongle insurance.

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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
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Subject: Re: Help Find Lee Stranahan a Job!
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In article <4gnogf$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>    I guess that explains why Bill Gates' company is such a small time
>operation-- after all, Gates isn't >really< a business man, he's just a
tech
>head.....

   oh how true.. see what happens when the head of the company not only
knows how to use his product, but can actualy program it too? Maybe newtek
should take a little tip from the leader..



Jason Booth
Second Nature, Inc.
 "I'm programing a raytracer that only outputs in ASCII art! I'LL BE
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In article <4gmuk4$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(DJM2984712) writes:

>> Lee's the reason I know many of the tricks I know. Who else
>>would have drilled the keyboard shortcut for the stats menu so deap into
>>my brain.. It's wierd...
>
>No. It's not weird. If one is excited about something, they'll want to
>share the good news with others. Lee was (correction, still IS) excited
>about Lightwave and that came across on the tapes. That kind of
enthusiasm
>is contagious and entices the viewer to pay attention to what is being
>said which, in turn, leads to a greater likelihood the information will
be
>remembered and easily retrieved when needed.
>
>

   obviously you have never watched the tapes Lee made, or you would have
caught the wierd reference.. W is the shortcut for the stats menu, and
Lee's way of making people remember is was saying that it was a 'wierd'
shortcut - worked for me.


Jason Booth
Second Nature, Inc.
 "I'm programing a raytracer that only outputs in ASCII art! I'LL BE
RICH!!!!"



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From: (Ken Mayfield)[e-mail]
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Free Range Digital Imaging: Still around?
Date: 25 Feb 1996 12:00:39 GMT
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Hi,

    Does anybody know if Free Range is still in operation, and/or in
Albequerque, New Mexico? They did some animation and used Lightwave...


    p.s. visit my home page and stay a while...

    http:www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ad914/Profile.html   (note caps)

            TIA and Be Well,
                        -Ken
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I've just come over from the 3DS world and I love LW4.0. My problem is
that I use Dave's TGA animator to create 16bit FLH animations. Light
Wave saves The Images I this Format( Name.TGA#.TGA). DTA can't
read those long names. is there a way to make LW save The files in the
regular dos format?

[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (MarcICIB)
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Hi, hier ist ein GERMAN LW USER was ghibts denn??

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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
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Subject: Re: Help Find Lee Stranahan a Job!
Date: 25 Feb 1996 08:31:25 -0500
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"Who is Lee Stranahan?" ;)
.......................................

Yep - I also started 'the Lee's Problem with NewTek' thread by saying -
"This is Lee Stranahan speaking...." References everywhere...


_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
Q : What do BBQ and better sex have in common?
A : Lee's new and improved home page!
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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From: [e-mail] (Computers From Scratch)
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Subject: LW Versions and upgrades
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How can one tell what revision of Lightwave one has?  (Geez...I sound
like a 17th century novel character don't I?)

Umm..the thing is, I have Lightwave 4.0 but I don't know what revision
I have or how to find out what revision I have or whether I'll get
automatic upgrades because I'm registered, or what.  Please advise, O,
teeming hordes of superior Lightwave users.

Thanks in advance.

J


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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Newtek Customer Support?
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 96 16:32:42 GMT
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I sent these questions to NewTek a few times and no one seems to
answer there email there. Since they do no seem to put much interest
in answering potential customers I am having second thoughts about
NewTek as a serious company dedicated to ther customers. I know
the're many other 3d programs with great features for under $1000
like (Real3d,HASH,etc.). I sent similar question to other these other
companies and there responce was quick and informative. But I just
keep coming back to how LW output "looks". That however can not be
the only criteria for choosing a 3d program.

How is NewTek Tech support like?

These where the questions I asked Newtek:

I am interested in purchasibg another 3-D program. I currnetly
use Truespace 2 and Ray Dream Designer. Does NewTek (Lightwave v4.0)
have a competitive upgrade policy for TS users?

On the Lightwave Newsgroup it is said that NewTek does not
replace lost or stolen dongle. If you do replace stolen or lost
dongle what is your price policy?

Are they coming out with a new version of Lightwave which will
integrate the modeler-layout modules, and are there any plans for 3d
real-time API like OpenGL or 3DR, and when is it due?



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From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING)
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On Feb 24, 1996 02:19:20 in article <Re: Help Find Lee Stranahan a Job!>,
'[e-mail] (Stranahan)' wrote:


>Since we're discussing ads, here was my idea for LW ads - an idea that I
>had while at NewTek and tried to develop there...this is designed for CGW,


I think a crippled but self running demo of layout/modeler playing
tutorials would convince most people of what LW can do. They'll see how
"easy" it is to use by example.

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M C L -

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From: [e-mail] (Steve Barden)
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Subject: FS: Toaster4000 for $1,000.00
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:48:54 GMT
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Hi All,

I'm selling my Video Toaster 4000 w/3.0 and 3.1 upgrade software.

I would like to get $1,000.00 for it or make an offer.

I would be interested in trading for IBM-PC memory modules also.

-Steve


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From: [e-mail] (Robert Bodek)
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Subject: FS:LightWave Workstation
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I am currently in possesion of a PC workstation that is about a
month old.  I have been using it to run LighWave, and it runs
great.  However, it now looks like I need to step up to the SGI
platform.

Here's what is on the system:
-ViewSonic 17" Professional Series Monitor (.25 dpi 1600x1280)
-32 MB(Extended Data Out)Ram
-Intel Pentium 120 Processor (Intel "Endevor" Motherboard)
-DPS Perception Video Recorder (PVR 2500)
-2.1 GB Fast SCSI Hard Drive for Perception
-1.6 GB Maxtor Hard Drive System Disk
-4x speed Mitsumi CD-ROM (IDE)
-Microsoft Mouse
-101 Key Keyboard
-14.4 Modem (Modem Blaster)
-16-bit Sound Blaster "Vibra" Sound Card
-Diamond Stealth 64 with 4 megs VRAM
-Large Tower Case with 5External 5.25"/2 External 3.25" bays
-3.5" 1.44 MB Floppy
-LightWave 3D Version 4.0 (Free! with purchase of system)

Just to clarify the above, I will give you my copy of LightWave,
in the box, free of charge.  In fact, the registration card is
still in the box, so you can register it to yourself.

Also, in case you are not familiar with the Perception Video
Recorder, it is a top-of-the-line digital video board that allows
you to record video to a dedicated hard drive, as well as output
to videotape.  This is especially useful for putting your LightWave
animations on tape so you can show people the work that you do.
You can also do all kinds of video editing with professional
results.
It supports S-Video, Composite, and Component Video for both input
and output.
However, my board (PVR 2500) only allows for video output.
But if you want to, you can purchase the daughterboard, which will
allow you to capture video.

This is an outstanding graphics workstation, and I really hate to
see it go.
I am asking $8000
If you have any questions, want to make an offer, or want to buy
the system at this price, feel free to E-mail me at:

                        [e-mail]

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Subject: Re: Free Range Digital Imaging: Still around?
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They are - call 505 area code info to get the number.....




_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
Q : What do BBQ and better sex have in common?
A : Lee's new and improved home page!
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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Competitive upgrade for TS - No, I don't think so

Dongle - not sure, and not really sure if they are sure

Integrated modeler/render - I hope not. I don't know any LW users who want
that - modeling is one job, and animation is another - I would like an
easier 'pipeline' between the two.....

OpenGL - there are plug-ins already



_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
Q : What do BBQ and better sex have in common?
A : Lee's new and improved home page!
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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From: [e-mail] (Wanna B 3D)
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Subject: PAR over network for SN?
Date: 25 Feb 1996 12:48:56 -0500
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I have 2 computers networked for the sole purpose of rendering via
ScreamerNet.  The problem is; I can't get windows (3.11 OR win95 for that
matter) to recognize my PAR as a legitimate hard drive.  Under win3.11 I
can share the PAR drive, the other node (windows95) says that the drive is
not accessable.

Is anybody out there using SN to render directly to their PAR drive?!
Please help.

Thank You,
Frank Chiappetta
BaseTwo Imaging
http://members.aol.com/wannab3d/bti.html
            Frank Chiappetta
      <<<BaseTwo Imaging>>>
...The World Inside My Computer...
      <<<  [phone]  >>>
      < [e-mail]>>

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From: [e-mail] (Simon Blackledge)
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Subject: Re: lightwave anims on PC (no SF recorder needed)
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In message <[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] writes:

> Adam Chrystie wrote:
> >
> > yea, but i do not think the board will playback 640x480 at full
> > res or capture at that resolution...
> >
> > if memory is correct, the board operates at 320x480 and does
> > some weird interpolation.
> >
> > please ocrrect me if i am wrong...
> >
> > Adam
>   There are 2 boards I've been considering for personal use. One is the
> Quadrant Q-motion.  The other, Miro DC20.  Have you, or anyone else had
> any experience with these boards?

No but we are looking into the dc20 seriously for off-line editing
with premiere.As long as the avi`s are called the same we should then
be able to
move the project onto the pvr machine ,load it and on line automatically.

Will let you know how it goes.

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From: [e-mail] (Simon Blackledge)
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Subject: Re: Amiga -Pc Lightwave
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In message <[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] (Andrew Barnett) writes:

> Hi all again ,

> Well I finally going for a

> P133,
> 32Mb Memory,( Got a few simms in my Amiga maybe 40Mb ;))
> 6x CD-Rom
> Medium Tower,
> 4 VRam Diamond Sleath,
> 1 Gig HD E-IDE ( To start with )

> Is Windows NT useable on this system ?


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> New evidence proves John Sheridan devil worship connection.


Yes it most certainly is ,it`s the same as what we use although 64
meg would help to stop usage of vrtual mem in big renders.exellant
starting position.
Enjoy  :-}
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From: [e-mail] (Simon Blackledge)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: FS:  Lightwave 3D 4.0 for SGI
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In message <4go7vp$[e-mail]>
        "Andrew S. Milkis" <[e-mail]> writes:

> For Sale,

> LightWave 3D 4.0 for SGI.  Lists currently for $2495.  Will go
> lower.  Please email offers.  Thanks!

> -Andrew Milkis

What type of sgi did you run it on?
It looked pretty slow on an extreme!!



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From: [e-mail] (Simon Blackledge)
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Subject: Re: compositing moving backgrounds
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In message <4goa8d$[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] writes:

> >   [e-mail] (Jeff Yeh) writes:
> >    Anyone have any suggestions on the best compositing
> >  package that can composite Lightwave animations with
> >  moving live video backgrounds?  I'm looking for
> >  something on the PC, not Mac, that costs hopefully
> >  less than $500, which is easier to use than
> >  compositing with Lightwave.
> >

Try Adobe Premiere 4 it allows all kinds of digital compositing
E.G alpha channel
    Track matt
    Blue & green screen

unlimited layers
virtual clips ect..ect..




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From: [e-mail] (Simon Blackledge)
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In message <2177cc$[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] writes:

> Hello, has anyone been able to get NT3.51 to work with the PAR card?
> I cant, it keeps telling me thier isnt enough expanded memory to load
> pardrv .
> Please help, thanks in advance, Shawn


Talk to dps tech.They will fill you in on the position of nt &par.
They told me a driver was quite close.



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In message <4goa5a$[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] writes:

> >   [e-mail](William Teegarden) writes:

> >  Assuming you're getting say, 64MB of RAM, a two gig drive, and the
> >  Perception with drive, and lets throw in a 21" monitor, I'd say about
> >  $12k.
> >
> >  GT

>  Greg, I know a buncha youguys went out and bought 21" monitors:  tell
> me, how does that affect your productivity?  They look really sweet, but the
> extra grand seems a bit much to $wallow.


>
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> Any ideas why that is way cheaper than the average U.K price?


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